WikiAnnotation means annotation ofWikiPages.

Why is WikiAnnotation important for Online Communities?

Isn't Wiki enough?

Wikis allow inline annotations with normal wiki page editing?

-- FridemarPache

Note: Don't confuse an AnnotationWiki with WikiAnnotation. An AnnotationWiki is a repository for annotations material, to be pasted into rich text/link annotation dialogues, whereas WikiAnnotation makes only wiki pages the targets of annotations. Of course an AnnotationWiki can be itself the target of some WikiAnnotation.

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The above text is a copy of the introtext of the author, which is placed on a WikiPage. As WikiPages are editable by anyone (, if not special restrictions apply), it makes sense, to freeze essential claims of the authors in annotations itself.

At the same time, this is a test, if DiiGo annotations on a WikiPage are preserved.

As you can see yourself, the DiiGo'ed text: "WikiAnnotation means annotation of WikiPages" is not preserved in a Mark (i.e. a TrailFireAnnotation).

Hans, can you see the upper paragraphs marked in total. Currently I cannot get rid of the highlighted text. -- fridemar

{0 {1 {2 Hans, can you see the upper paragraphs on this page DiiGo marked in total. Currently I cannot get rid of the highlighted DiiGo text. -- fridemar } The text in curly braces, numbered 2, was copied into a FireTrailMark as temporary work text. When this page gets refactored, it can be deleted. In the meantime, it serves as an illustration, how useful FireTrail? is for maintaining a WikiPage. The text in curly braces, numbered 1, is again copied into a FireTrailMark and can later be deleted too, after it has served as illustration. 1} -- fridemar dto. for block 0. Later after using the annotation tools, such collaboration interaction can be factored out straight from the start on. I hope to have demonstrated, how useful WikiAnnotation can be. 0}

Hans, thank you for giving feedback. If annotations become common practise, I think the wiki base pages must be slides, so that we can overlook with minimal effort, where the annotations are. Scrolling for reading is bearable, but scrolling for annotation is not. -- fridemar

Dear Diigo, dear TrailFire community, can give me somebody (at least) a link to the manual, how to imbed videos. This is at the same time a test for social awareness and practicality in social collaboration by annotation. Thank you.

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{ To test, if collaboration by annotation works at this early state in the history of social annotation, the authorDiiGos andTrailMarks this page. He asks his peers in Wiki,DiiGoandTrailFire:

• can somebody show him how to embed videos in DiiGoorFireTrailannotations (or better)
• can somebody continue his work by making the wanted video enhanced annotation on this page[AskDiigo][AskTrailFire][AskWiki]}

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Dear TrailFire programmers.

Thank you and congratulations for your good work.

The following annotation was possible in your software.
However, when trying to save this via DiiGo, the system rejected it as too long an annotation. (dubious message: "comment needs to be less than 5000 words"  I just wanted to annotate, not to comment.}

As your colleages in DiiGo read this hopefully too, it will be an incentive, to make both systems interoperable.


{ To test, if collaboration by annotation works at this early state in the history of social annotation, the authoris going to DiiGoand TrailMarkthis page. He asks his peers in Wiki, DiiGoandTrailFire:

• can somebody show him how to embed videos in DiiGoorFireTrailannotations (or better)
• can somebody continue his work by making the wanted video enhanced annotation on this page[AskDiigo][AskTrailFire][AskWiki]
• can some DiiGoplease suggest to the programmers ofDiiGo, to offer movable annotation markers, because, you can see, that changes in the marked text break the static annotation markers apart
• in case, if there is an option for floating annotations, please leave an answer under the tag AskDiigo?}

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[TrailFire] is a SocialAnnotation service, similar to DiiGo. Trails are a kind of userdefined WebRings on the fly, where sets of annotations take the role of Webpages. Annotations can contain, rich text, audio and even video content.

A short [video introduction from the CEO of TrailFire] can be found on YouTube.

What about starting our research on TrailFire with the tools of TrailFire itself. -- HansWobbe, FridemarPache

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It's rare for me to be able to take a look at something and immediately see that I want to start using it. So far, this seems to be one of those pieces of software. That being said, I have no idea what-so-ever of their business model yet, so I'll be cautious about becoming dependant on it until I know what it may end up costing me. -- HansWobbe

Thank you Hans for starting this page. Therefore I inserted your name in the initial authors list, removing the placeholder notice and inviting interested peers to start a trail on TrailFire.

What name for the trail do you suggest? TrailFire? Is there such a trail already, we can join? If we join an existing trail, can we use all trail functions or only comments? What about the wiki-like joined editing? -- [fridemar]

• <<A HREF="http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?HansWobbe">HansWobbe...
• I doubt we need to concern ourselves with these issues too much since...
  • Trails are designed to be extremely independant.
  • A referenced object, such as a page, can be an intersection for several trails.
  • ...
  • I'm not sure what ...wiki-like joined editing... means.
    • Some of the MicroContent? tricks I've started using include ...
    • I use wiki pages in my bliki (that have the same name as the trailMarks I leave on other pages) for larger blocks of text that are easy to edit, can be part of a TransClusion and that can efficiently link to other wikis (especially those for which I have InterWikiMap? support).
    • I also use DiiGo to Bookmark these all of pages since that allows me to add Tags in an evironment that automatically generates RssFeeds for any set of interesecting tag sets.
      • These RssFeeds are automatically polled by ProtoPage? so that specific Audiences (many of which insist on Privacy via passwords) can be notified withou having to install and maintain their own RssFeed? aggregators.
  • ...
• all in all, its becoming a very efficient (for me as a Author, at least, although I would hestitate to recommend it to many others, at this early stage) system.
• -- HansWobbe>

Hans, I take up the ball, you played. Just as you did it, I used different annotation systems to get a critical mass of participants for our initiative. Besides that I appreciated in the public news blog of TrailFire the growing wikiness of this innovative social annotation system. Find a copy of my comment as a DiiGo annotation below.

I annotated the FAQ of TrailFire with DiiGo annotations and I am going to use additionally WikAlong. On the other hand, it would be a pity, if this topic would be cut off the MeatballWiki, which is a community of existing and potential new communities.

What about an AnnotationWiki, where all annotation streams of the different annotation communities can flow together. In this way mutual benefit can be created:

• any annotation can use the rich link context of the used AnnotationWiki
• the AnnotationWiki gets a wider exposure in the web.

By natural selection, those wikis with the greatest "cumulated wisdom of the crowds", are candidates for the most appropriate AnnotationWiki.

I am going to set up a trail in TrailFire, called AnnotationWiki. This Trail is set up in wiki-mode, such that everyone is invited and enabled to edit the chain.

Hans, do you allow me to blog this page? In the sense of reciprocity you are given the same permission, of course. I know from your engagement in CommunityWiki, that you are open for such a question. Using the button "Blog This page" is a great timesaver. Otherwise each author had to reassemble their stuff.

For the sake of simplicity: If somebody writes on this page, please make it explicit, if you dont want to be included in the "Blog This" practise.As long as there is no veto on this page and the current authors have given their licets, each author, signing with their real name, is allowed to blog a snapshot of the whole page on their own weblog. Thank you. -- [fridemar]

PS.: You find my Diigo annotation on: http://blog.trailfire.com/news/2007/04/contact_list.html

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