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refugees named their kids sufi mohd. and fazlullah in the camps.
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He says that for years the Taliban in Swat were just students of a local religious leader, Maulana Fazlullah. At first their goals were limited to building a mosque, and locals willingly helped. But he and other residents say the Taliban grew increasingly belligerent as outsiders and criminals joined their ranks. "I think 50 percent of the Taliban are criminals," says Nisar. "They have no jobs, no other opportunities, so they join the Taliban."
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When people decry civilian deaths caused by the U.S. government, they're aiding propaganda efforts. In sharp contrast, when civilian deaths are caused by bombers who hate America, the perpetrators are evil and those deaths are tragedies.
* When they put bombs in cars and kill people, they're uncivilized killers. When we put bombs on missiles and kill people, we're upholding civilized values.
* When they kill, they're terrorists. When we kill, we're striking against terror.
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Halfway through the interview, however, he suddenly added that the Taleban was also being funded and trained by the CIA, Mossad, and India’s RAW intelligence agency. Why? As part of a strategy to carve out an independent statelet in northwestern Pakistan to help to contain China’s growing military and economic power. And to capture Pakistan’s nuclear weapons.
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But while tribal allies such as Zainuddin oppose Mehsud, they also support al-Qaida and fight western troops in Afghanistan. "We have reservations that this is going to work," said a senior western diplomat in Islamabad.
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Tajik farmer says in islam it is ok to grow poppsurvive.
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Excellent interview.
Irrationality of the suicide bomber. Inconsistency of the mullahs.
Lack of logical consistency on all sides.
Excellent Host.
Irrationality of the suicide bomber. Inconsistency of the mullahs.
Lack of logical consistency on all sides.
Excellent Host.
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Afghan Allies botched OBL mission and were themselves in awe of OBL.
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itary has wide popular support behind thi
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Malala from Swat admires BB, is not afraid of Talibs and there is video clip of Feb 2009 where Mir interviewed Swat Talibs.
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The expedient and corrupt pak pol.
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While some naive ones say tht Talib are followers of saudi regime or wahabi etc...
the opp. is absolutely true.
Here we have a salafi using the same lang about the tals as their enemy.
the opp. is absolutely true.
Here we have a salafi using the same lang about the tals as their enemy.
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One cannot be an 'authentic' Sufi and commit acts of gross atrocity against
> other human beings. It is a spiritual oxymoron.
This kind of thinking is naive and instrument for mass murder.
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excellent vid, of Imran on how WoT has damaged Pakistan.
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excellent comentary on the inability of Tals tot takeover because they are very weak.
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@6:00 he talks of doctrines of necessities and corruption with particulars.
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excellent commentary on how much damage swat cost and its uselessness.
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chk out the hi lite
Justice Equality Mov.
Justice Equality Mov.
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chk out hi lites. 19 dead all officers.
suicide bombing more humane.
suicide bombing more humane.
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chk the hi lites!!!
imrn khan logic!
imperial pride on the line. they'll never say they're wrong.
imrn khan logic!
imperial pride on the line. they'll never say they're wrong.
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Biden: 9/11 plotted in Pak (as oppsed to the comission report).
Sharrif 's words verbatim of IK.
Sharrif 's words verbatim of IK.
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His verbosity is militant, no diff than JI.
ANd he is ecpedint like ema ll.
ANd he is ecpedint like ema ll.
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Zardari assured me of Waziristan operation: Brown
LAHORE: British Prime Minister Gordon Brown has said President Asif Ali Zardari assured him that Pakistani forces would carry out an operation against the Taliban in South Waziristan, a private TV channel reported on Friday. The channel quoted Brown as saying that Britain would support the operations against the Taliban in Pakistan as the insurgents also posed a serious threat to the UK. He also said strong governments were vital for Afghanistan a92
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Great comments by mansoori, concerned am pak
Failue of govt.
Dr SM saying tht NRO led expedient govt. should never ave been aceptable.
Foreign Policy journal leaked some secet parts of report tht Afghn situation worse thn relaized
Gen McChrystal Report differ from Obama admn.
Either convince am people /congress for massive nation bldg.or roll back ur aims.
probs. b/w am civil policy makers and military commanders.
NATO forces will have to come out of their safe havens to fight the extremists. (meaning they have just been bombing.
Gen also said tht Afg civil. casualties much more troublesome thn taliban.
Brit soldiers die to protect karzai (Paul FLynn)
Of 23 bn pounds only 20% reach population. There have been hundreds of new millonaires and billionaires in afghanistan now many in govt. and arzai's family.
Russians says that you Brits are smart. You occupied Afg in 6 days. We too did it in 6 days. We were there for 10 years. Killed millions of afghans, spent billions of rubles, when we left we had 300k afghan mujahideen. Watch you have the same (2001).
Govt havnt been able to solve any probs even SUGAR. Court ruled and businesmen refused to obey.
And the attny gen said we were wrong.
Khalid mirza chairman, was dismissed when he took actions against cement mafia. . This collaboration bw govt. and big business is called mafia.
Dr. Says tht believeing tht somehow automatically something shall come about (meaning let the govt run as it is and democracy shall flourish doesnt seem so).
Zardari on foreigin tours and Sharrif in Saudi on vacation.
China perturbed by US military presence, Blask water everywhere yet govt still denies.
NRO to be discussed in parliament (promise) in 90 days. never happened.
COurt ordered for sugar prices to be lowered, govt. said we cant, let the courts do it lol.
black water hit a policeman, politician and they go about brandising guns.
Failue of govt.
Dr SM saying tht NRO led expedient govt. should never ave been aceptable.
Foreign Policy journal leaked some secet parts of report tht Afghn situation worse thn relaized
Gen McChrystal Report differ from Obama admn.
Either convince am people /congress for massive nation bldg.or roll back ur aims.
probs. b/w am civil policy makers and military commanders.
NATO forces will have to come out of their safe havens to fight the extremists. (meaning they have just been bombing.
Gen also said tht Afg civil. casualties much more troublesome thn taliban.
Brit soldiers die to protect karzai (Paul FLynn)
Of 23 bn pounds only 20% reach population. There have been hundreds of new millonaires and billionaires in afghanistan now many in govt. and arzai's family.
Russians says that you Brits are smart. You occupied Afg in 6 days. We too did it in 6 days. We were there for 10 years. Killed millions of afghans, spent billions of rubles, when we left we had 300k afghan mujahideen. Watch you have the same (2001).
Govt havnt been able to solve any probs even SUGAR. Court ruled and businesmen refused to obey.
And the attny gen said we were wrong.
Khalid mirza chairman, was dismissed when he took actions against cement mafia. . This collaboration bw govt. and big business is called mafia.
Dr. Says tht believeing tht somehow automatically something shall come about (meaning let the govt run as it is and democracy shall flourish doesnt seem so).
Zardari on foreigin tours and Sharrif in Saudi on vacation.
China perturbed by US military presence, Blask water everywhere yet govt still denies.
NRO to be discussed in parliament (promise) in 90 days. never happened.
COurt ordered for sugar prices to be lowered, govt. said we cant, let the courts do it lol.
black water hit a policeman, politician and they go about brandising guns.
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Great points about scapegoating, incompetencu and slavery.
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lol uncanny resemblance to Ron Paul
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IK wins poll on facebook.
Gues who's 2nd?
Musharraf!?!
Gues who's 2nd?
Musharraf!?!
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Mush Rah e haq to raah e raast
For 3 months, of negotiations, no suicide bombing.
Bajaur, 500k IDPs, no terrorism.
Fauzia Wahab, Ask why did we start operation in Bajaur. LOL So endorsing Busharaf. Didnt they say it wasn't our war to it has become our war.
He's right, Swat was totally different. The mov was going on since 1970's.
In Swat 5k fighters only belonging to 3 diff. groups vs 700k pak military.
In 2007 only 500 Taliban which blossomed after 2007 Swat operation when criminal elements joined in.
IK , poor guy....a scholarly gentle man stuck in a cesspool of incompetent expedient slaves.
OH STFU Ayaz, that Pak didn't surrender sovereignity to US under zardari.
He's of the Zia's mindset. That we shud dpo tougher negotiations w/ uS to milk the cow.
50 bn. dollars lost in pak's war.
STFU Ataz, Swat IDPs tell horror tales of their plight. All thanks to their own and their relatives and other resolve. Govt of punjab and others even refused their entry.
fuck off.
For 3 months, of negotiations, no suicide bombing.
Bajaur, 500k IDPs, no terrorism.
Fauzia Wahab, Ask why did we start operation in Bajaur. LOL So endorsing Busharaf. Didnt they say it wasn't our war to it has become our war.
He's right, Swat was totally different. The mov was going on since 1970's.
In Swat 5k fighters only belonging to 3 diff. groups vs 700k pak military.
In 2007 only 500 Taliban which blossomed after 2007 Swat operation when criminal elements joined in.
IK , poor guy....a scholarly gentle man stuck in a cesspool of incompetent expedient slaves.
OH STFU Ayaz, that Pak didn't surrender sovereignity to US under zardari.
He's of the Zia's mindset. That we shud dpo tougher negotiations w/ uS to milk the cow.
50 bn. dollars lost in pak's war.
STFU Ataz, Swat IDPs tell horror tales of their plight. All thanks to their own and their relatives and other resolve. Govt of punjab and others even refused their entry.
fuck off.
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IK exposes corruption and useless expenditures of these chattels.
7 billion rupees givent to PPP workers.
7 billion rupees givent to PPP workers.
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whyu afghan army would'nt ever be effective, or win hearts and minds.
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The Taliban exploits this sentiment, and seeks to legitimize its movement by promising better security, quick justice, and a less corrupt government, rather than more roads, schools, and clinics.
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halimullah mehsud: we dont want to fight the army, but we shall if hey force our hand.
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2"20 All paki politicians do politics in the name of representing Islam.
Good points about strange dichotomy betwenn pakisecularism and pakinonsecularism.
Good points about strange dichotomy betwenn pakisecularism and pakinonsecularism.
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